Sibling of the heartbeat fix: a /loop set from a messaging chat carries the gateway's
pinned ``route`` (platform + chat_id), and ``gateway/run_goals.py::_loop_wakeup_fire_one``
already defers route-less CLI/TUI loops to their own schedulers. The TUI/Desktop poller
never returned the favor, so a Desktop viewer of the same session could fire the wakeup
on its own surface and the reply never reached the chat. Mirror the rule: a routed loop
is skipped before the session is claimed, so the tick stays due for the gateway scanner.
Live probe (temp HERMES_HOME, qqbot-routed loop, Desktop viewer of the same session):
before -> loop.ticks=1 awaiting=True (consumed on Desktop); after -> ticks=0, still due.
Desktop-owned control loop still fires.
The gateway asked the user questions (approval, clarify, sudo, secret,
vault, MCP setup, the desktop read/act bridges) by emitting a
`<x>.request` EVENT carrying a hand-minted request_id, blocking the
agent thread on a module dict keyed by that id, and exposing a paired
`<x>.respond` METHOD per kind — thirteen pairs, four registries
(`_pending`, `_answers`, `_batch_clarify`, `_EXPIRING_REQUESTS`) and a
per-kind reconnect snapshot (`pending_clarify` / `pending_approval`)
that only two of the thirteen kinds ever got. JSON-RPC already has the
primitive: the server sends a request frame with an id and the client
answers with a response frame bearing the same id.
`tui_gateway/server_requests.py` owns the one mechanism:
send() block the agent thread until the response frame
(`srq-<n>` ids; ints belong to the client)
send_async() fire-and-callback variant (bot relay)
cancel*() withdraw with ONE `request.cancel {id, method, reason}`
event (timeout / interrupt / process exit /
answered elsewhere) instead of per-kind *.expire
open_requests() the still-open frames, replayed by session.resume,
session.activate and session.events.since so a
reconnecting client re-renders every kind, not two
clarify.lock stays a real client→server RPC (locks one batch
answer early); locked answers merge into the final
set even when the closing response carries only the
tail the user answered last
A client that does not implement a method answers -32601 and the agent
fails fast (the old fixed-timeout "unavailable" probes for tour/preview
still work — a wire error IS an answer). Approval: the queue entry's
settle hook withdraws the request when `/approve` from another surface,
a timeout or an interrupt resolves it first, so no window keeps a dead
card. Compute-host children own their waits; the parent mirrors their
open frames for replay and relays `clarify.lock` + response frames.
Clients: `JsonRpcRequestChannel` gains `onRequest` (unhandled → -32601,
dedup by id) and `JsonRpcGatewayClient` re-delivers `open_requests`
from the replay result. Desktop gets `gateway-event/server-requests.ts`
(one handler per method, replacing the request branches of
`input-requests.ts` / `desktop-bridge.ts`) and a `store/server-requests`
registry so every answer site calls `respondToServerRequest(id, result)`
synchronously; the TUI gets `createServerRequestHandler.ts` +
`serverRequestStore.ts`. `gateway-events.json` now pins both halves
(events + server request methods); the two contract tests check both.
Live (real stdio gateway, real `clarify_callback` on the agent thread):
before, `clarify.request` event + `clarify.respond` RPC, batch final
answers lost ('' returned); after, `{"id":"srq-…","method":"clarify"}`
frame, `session.events.since.open_requests` replays it, response frame
`{"answer":"yes"}` reaches the agent, batch lock + final response
merge to `{"q0":"1","q1":"free text"}`.
Flip the salvaged --start-now behavior (PR #97958) into the unconditional
default: /loop's first iteration is due the moment the loop is set, then
recurs on the normal cadence. The flag is dropped — it was never released,
so there is nothing to deprecate.
- LoopManager.set(): next_due_at = now for both cadence modes
- drop --start-now parsing, the persisted LoopState.start_now field, and
the flag from help text; confirmation now always says the first wakeup
fires now
- tests updated to pin the new default (incl. the TUI not-due test, which
now has to push next_due_at out explicitly)
- docs: quick-start and command table describe the immediate first run
A fresh state.db init (schema DDL, FTS tables, first config import)
measures ~300ms warm on a fast machine. The gateway constructs
GoalManager on the event-loop thread, and a cold cache ran that init
behind a 0.25s bootstrap grace window: on a slow CI box the /goal set
path's waits expired and save_goal silently no-oped — the reply said
"Goal set (7-turn budget)..." but nothing persisted, and a fresh
GoalManager read back no state (first assertion passes, second fails).
Two changes, one per caller shape:
- Async callers (_get_goal_manager_for_event,
_get_heartbeat_manager_for_event, _post_turn_goal_continuation, and
the heartbeat poller) warm the SessionDB cache off-loop through the
context-preserving executor before constructing the manager (shared
_warm_goals_session_db helper). The loop never blocks and the first
write lands at any init duration. A bare to_thread would lose the
per-turn profile home override under multiplex; the executor hop
keeps it (same pattern as the goal judge path).
- Sync callers (heartbeat persistence, _goal_still_active_for_session)
cannot await, so the bootstrap windows stay: the call that starts the
bootstrap waits a one-time init window (1.5s) instead of the short
per-call window (0.25s), giving healthy cold inits room to land while
a contended migration still degrades to None with only a bounded
one-time stall. The bootstrap thread binds the caller's home as a
contextvar override so a multiplexed worker cannot cache the default
profile's DB under another profile's key.
save_goal and heartbeat save_state now log at WARNING when they drop a
write, because the reply has already told the user the state was set.
Regression test pins the contract: init past the window, write
persists, loop gap under 2s (the flake-policy floor for wall-clock
bounds; the slow-init margin grew to match, so the test still tells
on-loop from off-loop).
Independent diagnosis + measurement by jackulau (#88965 review); the
off-loop warm-up shape follows their harness table. Simplify-code
review (4-agent) contributed the helper extraction and the poller
warm-up.
Ports Claude Code's /loop (and its /proactive alias) across every Hermes
surface. /loop [interval] <prompt> re-runs a prompt or slash command on a
recurring cadence inside the live session; omitting the interval enables
self-paced mode (starts at the floor, backs off exponentially while the
agent's replies stop changing, snaps back on change — local digest
comparison, zero extra LLM cost).
Stop conditions: agent-emitted LOOP_COMPLETE marker, --times N,
--until <condition> (judged by the existing goal_judge aux task,
fail-open), /loop stop, and a loops.max_ticks backstop budget.
Core: hermes_cli/loops.py (LoopState + LoopManager + shared
dispatch_loop_command), persisted per session in SessionDB state_meta
(loop:<sid>) so /resume picks it up; migrates across compression
boundaries like /goal. New SessionDB.list_meta_prefix() powers the
gateway's cross-session scan.
Surfaces:
- CLI: /loop handler + idle-fire and post-turn-complete hooks in
process_loop (mirrors the /goal hook shape; Ctrl+C pauses the loop)
- Gateway: /loop handler with route capture, mid-run control-verb guard,
post-turn tick completion, and a supervised loop_wakeup_watcher that
injects due wakeups into idle chats via the synthetic-message path
- TUI/dashboard/desktop: command.dispatch handler + per-session
notification-poller wakeup driver + post-turn completion in the turn
dispatcher; /loop added to the desktop slash palette
- /goal mixing: an active non-parked goal owns the idle boundary — loop
ticks defer until it finishes, pauses, or parks; real user input always
wins over both
Config: loops.{min_interval_seconds,max_ticks,self_paced_floor_seconds,
self_paced_ceiling_seconds}. Docs page + sidebar entry. 77 new tests.
Slack's 50-slash cap: /version moves to /hermes version to free the
native slot for /loop.
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